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    Shipper Survivor Guilt

    I'm still feeling down about Beth's death. She wasn't my fave and I really don't care who Daryl gets with (as long as it's not Michonne...she's taken!) but the whole thing seemed so pointless and sad. I follow/am followed by decent amount of Bethylers on Tumblr and I feel so bad for them. They are devastated. True, it's just a show...but if this had happened to Michonne, I'd be torn up for sure.

    The possibilities for Rick and Michonne in 5B got me really excited but honestly, I feel guilty posting about it, writing and posting Richonne fics, etc. This might sound silly...but when is it okay to go back to being happy about a ship/the show?

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    @pennylane71 survivor guilt can be hard to manage-I hope you'll feel ok being happy with your ship again soon. I can't imagine any shipper being so selfish as to want others not to enjoy their ships fully so I hope your joy returns soon. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pennylane71 View Post
    I'm still feeling down about Beth's death. She wasn't my fave and I really don't care who Daryl gets with (as long as it's not Michonne...she's taken!) but the whole thing seemed so pointless and sad. I follow/am followed by decent amount of Bethylers on Tumblr and I feel so bad for them. They are devastated. True, it's just a show...but if this had happened to Michonne, I'd be torn up for sure.

    The possibilities for Rick and Michonne in 5B got me really excited but honestly, I feel guilty posting about it, writing and posting Richonne fics, etc. This might sound silly...but when is it okay to go back to being happy about a ship/the show?
    ITA, it's not like I was a Bethyler myself because Richonne is my only ship. But I feel close to anyone who's a shipper. It's like we're kindred spirits who 'love "love"'. I feel compassion for the Bethylers and what they're going through. If something like that happened to Richonne, it would take a looonnng time for me to find any enjoyment in the show, if ever, idk...

    I realize there are some who say these are fictional relationships, so get over it. I hope they'll keep in mind that it's ALL fictional...everything anyone likes about the show came from someone else's imagination. We all enjoy the show for different reasons. If we all thought the same, there'd be no reason for this forum, LOL!

    Bethyl fans, hang in there. I can honestly say there are things with Richonne that make me go hmmmmm. I'm hoping for the best. Wish us luck!

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    Yeah I hear this...I'm taking this a lot harder than I thought I would. And I'm a battle-scarred veteran of GoT, Downton Abbey, Breaking Bad, Lost and a ton of other shows that like to take my happiness and put it in a woodchipper.

    But this was rough. It was rough. And I knew about it before hand too and it was STILL rough!!

    I think we're good here in Richonneland as long as we let Beth's fans just do their thing and work through it. Just posting our stuff isn't disrespectful. I think we are all feeling pain for them! This thread is definitely a nice way to show that. Richonners are flying our flag half-mast.

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    Hey Penny! Yeah, I relate cos I didn't care for Beth either, but her death was so arbitrary and poorly done, like I'm just finding it hard to believe the showrunners thought that was a good choice. She went out like a "redshirt", and not someone that's been around since S2. And let's face it, Richonne fans got it good cos I don't think the show would dare kill off Rick or Michonne anytime in the near future. But shipping a pairing in which someone just gets written off without some grace to it, it makes shippers sad and upset. I've been there, LOL. It only makes you feel resentful and distrustful of the show and the people behind it.

    I'm with you in your sympathy...and let's just hope for the best.

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    Yeah, I've been avoiding the Internet for the most part because I feel horrible. I was never a Bethyl shipper but I didn't mind Beth as a character at all, and even though I knew it was coming I had hoped that she would have gotten a better death than she did. Brutal to have your ship not only sink but in that manner as well. I completely understand the angry and upset reactions from Beth/Bethyl fans. Very bad writing, in my opinion, and I could probably write an entire thesis on how they could have done more with Beth overall.

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    Ships are never guaranteed and some sink. It sucks to lose a favorite, but you move on and find a new one.

    Or you could crackship it. That's what fic is for, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbow Cat View Post
    Yeah I hear this...I'm taking this a lot harder than I thought I would. And I'm a battle-scarred veteran of GoT, Downton Abbey, Breaking Bad, Lost and a ton of other shows that like to take my happiness and put it in a woodchipper.

    But this was rough. It was rough. And I knew about it before hand too and it was STILL rough!!

    I think we're good here in Richonneland as long as we let Beth's fans just do their thing and work through it. Just posting our stuff isn't disrespectful. I think we are all feeling pain for them! This thread is definitely a nice way to show that. Richonners are flying our flag half-mast.
    This is a really nice post.

    I was upset about Beth dying and seeing someone from the prison group go out like that was sad. Even if it was expected, I think I would be really upset if one of my favorite characters died like that. Most of the Bethyl fans I've encountered seem pretty cool and I doubt that they would feel anything negative about people posting about Richonne.

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    I was never a Bethyl, but I was really sorry for Beth fans, because I know how is to be a fan, some people are fans of the show as a whole, but others cling to a few characters, I can say that if Michonne was out, I would not watch anymore, so I completely understand the pain of those fans and I wanted to hug every one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwater View Post
    Hey Penny! Yeah, I relate cos I didn't care for Beth either, but her death was so arbitrary and poorly done, like I'm just finding it hard to believe the showrunners thought that was a good choice. She went out like a "redshirt", and not someone that's been around since S2. And let's face it, Richonne fans got it good cos I don't think the show would dare kill off Rick or Michonne anytime in the near future. But shipping a pairing in which someone just gets written off without some grace to it, it makes shippers sad and upset. I've been there, LOL. It only makes you feel resentful and distrustful of the show and the people behind it.

    I'm with you in your sympathy...and let's just hope for the best.
    I was not a Beth fan and I found the Bethyl thing kinda creepy (real talk), but the way they wrote her out of the story does upset me. I could see this type of death for Noah or even Tara or Rosita, but not for someone who has been on the show since season 2. I know we all want our characters, if they must go, to go out like a BOSS - in a blaze of glory. I also know that on tv and RL not all deaths are like that. Some deaths are quiet, some are meaningless...but this crap here looked thrown together in about 15 minutes and she truly did look like a red shirt. I believe EK said she found out she was dying in the MSF while filming Crossed. I thought they gave them more time than that, but still what got me was on TD when EK was crying RK looked as if he gave ZERO F#*&$ about her. I'm wondering if there was some behind the scenes drama taking place that will leak out. I mean they got rid of Andrea because of backroom politics so it wouldn't be the first time. Still, I wasn't looking for Robert to do much, maybe just a pat on the back. Hell, Chris came over and gave her a big hug and the person beside her, who she freakin' worked for was like All is well, carry on!! SMH...

    So to all the sane Beth fans and shippers (because I don't condone the ones sending death threats to MMB or SG) you have my sympathy. I knew she was dying for weeks now, but still it hit me like a knife to the heart, so I can only imagine what you are going through. Stay strong!!

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