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    Rick and Jessie Comic Storyline Summary

    I don't understand why Gimple changed the Rick-Jessie story line so profoundly for the show.

    *Comic Rick did not pursue Jessie at all. TV Rick was the aggressor from the start, even before knowing about the DV.

    *Comic Rick questioned himself and wondered if he was losing control. TV Rick? Not that I can see.

    *Comic Rick involved co-constable Michonne from the moment he sensed a problem in the Anderson household. TV Rick never told her a thing.

    *Comic Rick talked Douglas into including Pete in the funeral service for Scott and Regina with the argument that the funeral would not be for Pete but for Ron, a boy who had lost his father. Comic Rick also spoke on Pete's behalf at the funeral, saying the situation was to blame for his and Pete's actions. TV Rick wouldn't even allow Pete's body to be buried within the walls and only agreed to bury Pete in the end because Ron was watching.

    *Comic Rick made it very clear to Jessie that his actions against Pete were ultimately for the benefit of his group, and particularly to protect Carl, because if Pete was a danger to his family, he might eventually have become a danger to others. Comic Rick to Jessie: “Don’t get me wrong, and I’m glad I helped you . . . But I was doing it to keep my son safe.” TV Rick made it seem as if his actions were personally motivated and entirely for Jessie's benefit.

    *Comic Rick knew he hadn't let go of Lori and missed her, but I didn't get the sense that he was drawn to Jessie because she reminded him of Lori; rather, he was aware of his guilt and feelings of responsibility for the deaths of Lori and Judith and was going to take all necessary measures to protect Carl. He told Pete that he was saving Pete from his (Rick's) regrets and guilt and was equally clear with Jessie that he saw Pete as a potential danger to Carl. TV Rick? I don't know what is going on with him.

    I know many people do not read the comic. I went through the issues covering the Anderson story line and summarized what happened.


    Issue 70 – Rick’s group arrived in Alexandria.


    While waiting to meet Douglas, Rick noticed a group of children playing, one of whom had a black eye.




    Issue 72 – Welcoming Party.


    Rick watched Pete, Jessie, and Ron arrive. Ron was the boy with the black eye.




    Issue 75 – Rick met Pete, talked to Jessie, talked to Douglas, fought with Pete.


    As Rick walked past the Anderson house on patrol, Pete, who had been sleeping on a couch on the porch, called out to him. Rick mentioned Ron’s black eye. Pete said Ron was a typical, boisterous kid. Rick said it was getting a little too cold to be sleeping outside. Pete said he was sleeping on the porch following a fight he had with Jessie.


    Later, Rick talked to Michonne and said something about Pete wasn’t sitting right with him because Jessie asks for his permission to do things in his presence and Ron has a black eye. Michonne told Rick to trust his instincts.


    Rick went to the Anderson house. Jessie said Ron was at school, Pete was at work, and Rick shouldn’t be there. When Rick persisted in asking if something was going on that he needed to know about, Jessie admitted that Pete had changed and was violent sometimes toward her. She said Pete was usually not that bad, but he had never hit Ron before, either. Pete arrived and asked what Rick was doing in there. Jessie said Rick was only there to invite Ron over to Rick’s house to play with Carl. Rick backed her up and left.


    Rick went to see Douglas and asked about Pete. Douglas admitted he knew about the DV. Rick asked about Pete’s job, and Douglas said Pete was a doctor, so Rick knew Douglas was allowing the abuse because Pete’s skills were valuable to Douglas. Rick told Douglas he was going to give Pete two options: exile or death.


    Rick went to the Anderson house. Pete opened the door, and Rick punched him in the face. They fought, crashed through the window, landed in the street, and fought some more. Rick said he was saving Jessie and Ron and saving Pete because Pete didn’t know what it was like to live with the knowledge that he was responsible for the deaths of his wife and child. Rick said if Pete touched Jessie or Ron again, Rick would kill him.


    Douglas appeared and told Rick to back off. Rick pulled out his stolen gun, pointed it at Douglas, and gave his speech about what needs to be done. Michonne de-escalated the situation by hitting Rick on the head.




    Issue 76 – Rick and Douglas reached an understanding


    Rick came to his senses immediately, still in the street with everyone gathered around. Rick asked himself what he had done.


    Later, Douglas told Rick the story about Davidson and how he had killed Davidson for the good of the community and would kill Rick if he needed to. Rick told Douglas about his history with Shane.


    Later, Michonne, escorting Pete, watched as Jessie walked away from Pete and wouldn’t answer Pete when he called to her. Michonne told Pete to let Jessie go.


    Douglas and Rick talked. Douglas said Pete was being moved into a new house away from Jessie and Ron and that Michonne had agreed to keep an eye on them. Douglas asked if he could count on Rick to help Michonne. Rick said he would help and apologized for crossing a line the day before. Douglas said Rick’s fight with Pete made him realize someone within the walls should be armed and that although Rick had a gun, Rick had not used the gun on Pete. Douglas also said he knew that when Rick pointed the gun at Douglas, it was to give a message, not to shoot Douglas. Douglas also noted that Rick had not acted out of self-concern but for the protection of Jessie and Ron. Douglas gave Rick permission to carry a gun and also to break rules if necessary for the good of the community and inform Douglas of needed changes, so long as Rick was mindful of the community’s fragile balance and never again criticized Douglas’s leadership in public.


    As Rick walked back to his house, he met Michonne. Michonne told Rick to get his shit together. Rick slept, and when he woke up, he called “Lori” on the telephone he carried around in his bag. He told “Lori” that after what he did to the hunters, his behavior since arriving in Alexandria, and his attack on a guy named Pete, he might be losing control.




    Issue 77 - Rick killed Pete


    At an outside gathering, Pete tried to kill Rick with a knife, Pete mortally wounded Regina when she tried to intervene, and Douglas gave Rick permission to execute Pete.




    Issue 78 – Rick visited Jessie


    After shooting Pete, Rick visited Jessie to ask how she was holding up. She was conflicted. She said Ron was not taking it well because he loved Pete despite everything. She said she was sad and missed Pete but was relieved at the same time and didn’t know what kind of person that made her. She broke down, and Rick held her as she cried and told her he was sorry.


    Later, Rick talked Douglas into including Pete in the funeral service for Scott and Regina because the funeral service would not be for Pete but for Ron, a boy who had lost his father. During the service, Rick gave a speech about how people act differently during difficult times, and how their actions during these times do not define them. He said the situation was to blame for what he and Pete did, and people should remember Pete for who he was before. His speech was cut short by a shot from the Scavengers.




    Issue 79 – Rick visited Jessie again


    Rick visited Jessie to check on her, ask about Ron, and give her a bag of food. Jessie thanked Rick for his words on Pete’s behalf at the funeral and said they helped her talk to Ron about what happened. Rick said he was happy to speak on Pete’s behalf because it wasn’t fair to place all the blame on Pete.




    Issue 80 – A herd, drawn by the gunfire from the Scavenger shootout, arrived at the walls.

    Rick gave a speech to the community about what they needed to do and suggested people share houses to conserve power (the solar grid was strained from the snowfall). The crowd dispersed. A short while later, Jessie knocked on Rick’s door and asked if she and Ron could stay with Rick. Rick said they could and went upstairs to make up some rooms up for them. Later, after Carl and Ron were tucked in for the night, Rick and Jessie talked. Rick assured her it was no trouble to let Jessie and Ron stay at his place and would even help Rick because now Rick wouldn't have to drop Carl off at Maggie's later when Rick took his patrol shift that night.

    Jessie asked Rick why he helped her. Rick said he knew Pete was hurting her and Ron and he did what he thought was right. He said it didn’t occur to him that he had another option. He also made it clear that everything he does is for the good of his group but mostly for the protection of his family, and if Pete was hurting Jessie and Ron, he might eventually have become a danger to others. Rick to Jessie: “Don’t get me wrong, and I’m glad I helped you . . . But I was doing it to keep my son safe.” Jessie told Rick she did not see it that way and that he was special. Rick thanked her, then excused himself because he had night patrol and needed to get some sleep first. A little later, Jessie, in sleep clothes, opened Rick’s bedroom door and asked if she could sleep next to him to feel safer. Before he could answer, she was on the bed. He began to protest (“Jessie, I don’t feel–“) when she kissed him.




    Issue 81 – Jessie and Rick Do It

    Rick stopped protesting. Sex happened. As Rick dressed to go on patrol, Jessie needed reassurance that Rick didn’t think she was a horrible person. He reassured her and left. On his way out of the house, he paused to look at the telephone he used to call Lori.




    Issue 82 – Rick decides they need to leave Alexandria

    Rick returned from patrol. Denise, Michonne, and Morgan (bitten) were in the house. Maggie arrived with Sophia to tell Rick the herd was inside the walls. That night, Rick dozed off while sleeping on the couch. He woke to find Jessie next to him. Jessie said she had put Carl and Ron to bed and said that they hadn’t been bothered by walkers during the night. Rick told Jessie he really likes having her there. They kissed.


    Later, a walker tapped on the window of Rick’s house. The walker didn’t know they were there, but Rick knew that walker’s actions could make other walkers suspect the presence of living people in his house. He said they needed to make a run for it and once outside the walls, they would find a way to help the others trapped in the community. When Jessie said they would be leaving children behind, Rick said, “The thing to keep in mind about other people’s children . . . they’re not our children.”




    Issue 83 – Rick makes his priorities clear to Jessie before and during their attempt to leave the community

    Rick to Jessie: “I don’t meant to sound so insensitive, but if I have to choose between my child or someone else’s child . . . .I’m going to choose mine EVERY single time.”


    Rick proposed using the guts disguise. Michonne planned to help Denise back to the infirmary. Maggie said she and Sophia were staying in the house because Sophia would not be able to handle Rick’s plan. Jessie said she would follow Rick anywhere. Rick, Carl, Jessie, and Ron covered themselves with guts and slowly headed for the gate. Ron got scared and told Jessie he wanted to go back to the house. He was quickly swarmed. Rick told Jessie they could not help Ron and to let him go. She said she couldn't leave him and was quickly swarmed herself but was holding Carl’s hand so tightly, Carl could not get away. Rick chopped Jessie’s hand off and walked away with Carl as Jessie begged Rick not to leave her.


    *****

    Lastly, although not directly related to the Rick and Jessie interaction, I wish Deanna had responded to Rick's gun-waving rant as reasonably as Douglas had. Douglas was skeevy in the way he tried to coerce women into having sex with him, but he was very level-headed about Rick's gun-waving rant. He recognized that Rick could have shot Pete but didn't and knew Rick wasn't threatening Douglas's life even when Rick pointed a gun at Douglas. Douglas told Rick he could see he had been wrong about his no-guns-within-the-walls rule and gave Rick permission to be armed and the power to break other rules as Rick saw fit. Deanna, by contrast, wanted to exile Rick for stealing a gun and pointing it at people after the fight and thought Maggie's arguments (he was frustrated, he hadn't pulled the trigger, etc.) carried no weight.

    I expected Gimple to follow this story line closely. I just wish he had followed it almost to the letter because I really hate the changes.

    ETA - I like the way TV Jessie stepped up in wanting to become a good survivor to protect her boys, but if Gimple wasn't comfortable letting TV Jessie take the initiative on the sexual part of the relationship as her Comic counterpart did, he should have skipped the physical contact altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flannery View Post

    I expected Gimple to follow this story line closely. I just wish he had followed it almost to the letter because I really hate the changes.
    Agreed. The changes have made Rick look horrible on the TV show.

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    Yeah, he made it 20x worse just for a "shocking" MSF, IN MY OPINION.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flannery View Post
    *Comic Rick talked Douglas
    into including Pete in the funeral service
    for Scott and Regina
    with the argument that
    the funeral would not be for Pete but for Ron,
    a boy who had lost his father.
    It seemed so out of character for Rick to do
    sth so cold that he knew will cause Ron a lot of sorrow.

    Even serial killers get burials,
    is not for them, but for their families.

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    I can only hope TWD will end this awful storyline, the way it ended in the comic. It would have all been worth it.

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    Comic Rick was still a good guy with good intentions, it seems like they are trying to make TV Rick more and more like Shane.

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    loooool. Looks like Rick isn't being manipulated by any puppetmasters. You're cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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    My only suspicion is that they're playing it out this way because they can't use the infamous telephone from the comic as a method for Rick to channel Lori. I think Gimple also wants the MSF to be such a "shocker" he wants the "relationship" to appear heartfelt.

    This season has been nothing but one cheap trick to the next. From Glenn's fake death to this fake love story. It's all for shock value, and it's getting old.

    I'm rapidly losing interest in this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Grimes View Post
    My only suspicion is that they're playing it out this way because they can't use the infamous telephone from the comic as a method for Rick to channel Lori. I think Gimple also wants the MSF to be such a "shocker" he wants the "relationship" to appear heartfelt.

    This season has been nothing but one cheap trick to the next. From Glenn's fake death to this fake love story. It's all for shock value, and it's getting old.

    I'm rapidly losing interest in this show.
    Even without the telephone, TV Rick could still have said something to Pete about not only saving Jessie, Ron, and Sam but saving Pete from the guilt he would feel (guilt that Rick feels) for being responsible for the death of his wife. They also could have had scratched the "Would you do this for anyone?" line.

    And I have no idea why they felt TV Rick couldn't show any compassion to Ron and Sam after executing their father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flannery View Post
    Even without the telephone, TV Rick could still have said something to Pete about not only saving Jessie, Ron, and Sam but saving Pete from the guilt he would feel (guilt that Rick feels) for being responsible for the death of his wife. They also could have had scratched the "Would you do this for anyone?" line.

    And I have no idea why they felt TV Rick couldn't show any compassion to Ron and Sam after executing their father.
    Neither do I. Rick's coldness toward the Anderson children is inexcusable. The telephone could explain Rick's pursuit of Jessie and creepy attachment to her, but it definitely doesn't explain Rick just wanting to dump Pete's body.

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