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    Did The Saviors Rape Jadis?

    I was listening to a TWD podcast and they brought up that Jadis could have been raped based on how she was dressed when Rick and Michonne found her.

    Why would she randomly change her clothes? Especially when she knows they would turn in to walkers pretty quickly. Maybe her other clothes was torn off? We didn't even see The Saviors walk away after killing The Scavengers. They just skipped ahead in time and Simon was clearly trying to "Teach Jadis a lesson" and maybe even taking a bit of his anger towards Negan out on them.

    Also, next time we see Jadis she seems broken.

    So do you think they were hinting that The Saviors raped Jadis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    I was listening to a TWD podcast and they brought up that Jadis could have been raped based on how she was dressed when Rick and Michonne found her.

    Why would she randomly change her clothes? Especially when she knows they would turn in to walkers pretty quickly. Maybe her other clothes was torn off? We didn't even see The Saviors walk away after killing The Scavengers. They just skipped ahead in time and Simon was clearly trying to "Teach Jadis a lesson" and maybe even taking a bit of his anger towards Negan out on them.

    Also, next time we see Jadis she seems broken.

    So do you think they were hinting that The Saviors raped Jadis?
    I think that more likely only Simon probably did. If it was all the group she woulnd't be able to walk least of all run.

    But yeah, she probably was by Simon.

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    I doubt it. They all aren't rapists. They'd be dead if they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Şωɛɛȶ Ɗҽʂƚɾυƈƚιɳ View Post
    I doubt it. They all aren't rapists. They'd be dead if they were.
    It's Simon's crew though. Negan wouldn't allow it if he found out but Simon has shown he doesn't always listen to Negan.

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    I was wondering that too honestly... Either they stole the clothing off her back to humiliate/break her (still don't understand why Simon would keep her alive unless he really wanted to torture her (maybe he DID rape her)... Otherwise, he could have made any old story about Rick and his crew gunning them down for their weapons... Something is missing (also this episode had typical piss poor editing so idk)...

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    Makes me wonder if there was more to that scene but it got cut because it could cause a backlash and TWD can't afford another backlash and now it just low-key hints at it. It just feels like something was missing from that scene with Jadis and The Saviors.

    Also, the playing with time thing. Maybe they had to tell the episode out of order because AMC forced them to remove scenes or something and it fucked everything up so they had to move it around to make it seem intentional.

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    That's awfully sly for this show. I think they would've had Jadis say something about it to Rick and Michonne, knowing Gimple. This is the episode that had to put in title cards to let us know what characters we were looking at on the screen.

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    Possible, but agree that it would be only one. Most likely Simon after the dressing down he got from Negan and then Jadis knocked him to the ground. He wanted to inflict his suppressed rage against both group leaders who see him as a footman . I thought Jadis looked like she had struggled when they focused on her bloodied feet. Or maybe the white wispy gown was just surrender and a visual symbol of her vulnerability now. Hopefully it wasn't just a gimmick to juxtapose her defeat against the gruesome reality of the red blood of her clan.

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    The choice of a white gown seemed like heavy handed symbolism to me as if she stripped off all connections to the dump/GPKs. It didn't even occur to me that she might have been raped. It seems like a big jump to make without any other evidence, have we ever had any clues that Simon would do something like that?

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    I thought Jadis changed, or was wearing the white dress/slip under her other clothes because they had blood on them from the massacre of her people. Also, how would Simon or the Saviors have time to rape her with the trash people turning into walkers? I would think they'd want to get out of there and not risk being bit.

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