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    Episode 10x03 "Ghosts" Q & A

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    Who's AFRAID of ghosts?? NOT US BECAUSE IT'S SPOILER TIME!
    A HUGGGEEEE thank you to our source and let's dive right in!

    1. What communities do we see and what is their storyline?

    Only Alexandria. Mainly Daryl, Carol, Michonne, Aaron, Negan, Gabriel, Siddiq, Rosita and Eugene. The first plot point is them battling large groups of walkers coming from many different directions for 44 hours straight. The second is seven people including Daryl, Carol, and Michonne meeting Alpha at the border with the stakes.

    2. In a sneak peek we see Carol off on her own in a dark building. Where is she and what is she doing?

    She's not "on her own" per se. After the meeting at the border, they end up spending the night in an abandoned school campus. Carol takes the first watch for the night, that's where she wanders off. She goes to the gym of the school and steps on a trap that has her hanging upside down at the end of a rope. She then has to fight off a bunch of walkers and cuts her arm on a shard of glass in the process. There is one important detail here: When Carol is first caught in the trap, hanging upside down, a lone figure that looks like a walker approaches, but as it gets closer, it's implied that it's a Whisperer. Carol has a knife and she swings it, and the figure dodges. It turns around and walks away, actual walkers start coming in, Carol then cuts the rope, falls, impales herself, and proceeds to kill them.

    3. Carol has to "deal with her past losses." What does that mean?

    She mainly sees "hallucinations" of Henry. She also picks up a Home Economics book that was on the floor at the school. It has what looks like a SAHM and her kids around a table on the cover, and when she looks at the book again, she sees herself as the mom and from what I can tell; Sophia, Lizzie, Mika and Henry as the kids, all looking like corpses.

    4. Do we see how Aaron gets his mace hand?

    We see him removing his regular apparatus at the end of his prosthetic arm and putting on the mace-head instead while getting ready to go out and fight walkers as he is tasked with getting rid of the herd coming in from the south.

    5. Who does Negan interact with in this episode? Is he given more to do besides sit in a cell or pick vegetables?

    Negan only interacts with Gabriel and Aaron. Gabriel orders him to go out with Aaron despite objections from both. "You can fight. You are low on fighters. Peanut butter, meet jelly." Negan is given a broomstick, later finds an iron crowbar, but Aaron doesn't allow him to use it. They have a conversation about the past where Negan tells Aaron that he did what he had to do in order to protect what was his to keep it from eventually becoming someone else's. When he says "that's your duty as a man", Aaron replies by asking him if he means the loss of Eric was Aaron's fault. He then proceeds to tell him that if so, the loss of Negan's wife was in turn Negan's fault. He says that she died hating him, and that he's never going to see her again. During this conversation, they are attacked by walkers that are covered in hogweed which causes Aaron to lose his eyesight. He finds his way to an abandoned house where Negan eventually saves him from the walkers. Negan keeps watch until sunrise and Aaron gains his eyesight back.

    6. Do we see anyone suffering PTSD or stress other than Carol?

    Yes, we see Siddiq having a rough moment in the middle of a town meeting at Alexandria and storms out saying he needs to get some air, and once again when Carol is brought in with the shard of glass in her arm. He and Dante are examining the wound, Siddiq asks Dante to clamp while he removes the shard. He becomes distressed and can't do it. Dante tells him he's not okay, and that Siddiq should clamp and Dante should remove the shard. Afterwards, Michonne asks him if he's okay, he brushes it off, and him and Dante also have a heart to heart over moonshine when Dante tells him about his experience in Iraq as a field medic.

    7. How is Coco?

    She's apparently sleeping at Barbara's. Eugene asking Rosita her whereabouts prompts a harsh conversation between the two. Rosita tells him that she doesn't need his protection, that he's not Coco's father, that nothing's ever going to happen between them, and that she needs him to hear that. Eugene tells her that their whole friendship was based on him mistakenly thinking that he could one day convince her otherwise. "What kind of a friend is that?" he says, and he leaves.

    8. How does Carol deal with being face to face with Alpha and seeing the pikes again?

    She disobeys Alpha's order on having their weapons laid down on the ground for the meeting and packs a hidden revolver beforehand. When Alpha tells her that Henry screamed out Carol's name just before they took his head, she actually shoots at her! Daryl intervenes, causing her to miss.

    9. How does Daryl/Michonne handle the confrontation? Are they still willing to respect the borders?

    A big yes to the second part. At the town meeting, despite objections from mainly the Highwaymen who say they want justice and that they should cut off Alpha's head, Michonne asks Daryl how many walkers there are in Alpha's herd. When he says he saw tens of thousands of them, she tells everyone that they have no way of dealing with that kind of a threat. She says that right now, all Alpha wants to do is talk, and that they are going to listen. She also apologizes on behalf of Carol after she attempts to shoot Alpha.

    10. Who all is at the border meeting and what happens?

    By Michonne's account, seven people in total, I don't recognize the other four. Other than what I've mentioned above, Michonne tells Alpha that they trespassed only once because of the fire, but Alpha reveals that they know about their previous trespasses as well, three in total. "We are always watching." But "she considers context", so "there will be no bloodshed this time". Instead, they want land. Her request prompts Carol to say that this cuts off the group's hunting ground, and that "they don't have to stand there and listen to this…" She is interrupted by Michonne who yells "Carol", but Alpha approaches her and asks "to this what". When Carol says "to this bullshit", Daryl says they're done and that they're leaving, but Alpha says they are not done, "not until this one lowers her eyes to my feet". When that obviously doesn't happen, she tells Carol that she should fear her. Carol says she doesn't, that "she looks at her and feels nothing", and that's where Alpha says the thing about Henry and the attempted murder of Alpha happens. Michonne apologizes; "I apologize for my friend. We have not slept, and you know what she lost." Alpha then says that she forgives her, "mother to mother", that this is her land now and they should run.

    11. What’s Dog up to in this episode? Is he still a good boy?

    We only see Alexandria, so no Dog, unfortunately!

    12. How much do we see of the waves of walkers Alpha keeps sending to Alexandria? Are they easily defeated or does Alexandria run into complications?

    Gamma claims that this is not the Whisperers' doing. Lydia also feels the same way; when asked for her opinion at the meeting, she says that if Alpha wanted them dead, she would send the entire horde, all of it, not just one wave at a time like this. Still, fighting off the walkers for 44 hours straight of course takes its toll on everyone. At the same meeting, Eugene tries to say something about the satellite and the fire, implying that it might be the cause of the disturbance with the walkers, but he's interrupted by a female member of the Highwaymen who says she no longer wants to hear about the satellite and that they should go to the border and "take that lead bitch's head off".

    13. Do we see Gamma in this episode? What is she doing?

    Yes, she comes to Alexandria to tell the group to go to the border, lay down their weapons and wait for Alpha. She also tells them that the Whisperers are not responsible for the waves of walkers. That's it.

    14. What pills is Carol taking? What are they for?

    No specific details on this. She comments that "they are like coffee". Amphetamines maybe? She also tells Daryl that she can't sleep, but the pills are always alluded to be something to keep you awake, not help you sleep. She's shown to finish a whole bottle.

    15. Do we see any flashbacks?

    No flashbacks.

    16. Does anyone die?

    Just a bunch of walkers.

    17. How does the episode end?

    After the meeting at the border, while the group is on their way back, Carol sees three Whisperers and shoots in their general direction. The group starts looking for them, but they find no trace of them at all. At the end of the episode, back at Alexandria, Carol and Michonne talk, Carol says she saw them, Michonne replies "Only you did." After that, Carol goes outside to talk to Daryl, she tells him that Michonne doesn't believe her and asks if he does, Daryl replies "yes". After this, we are back at the school gym, we see the dead walkers that Carol killed, the camera picks up and follows a blood trail, which leads to apparently a Whisperer lying down on the floor, opening its eyes. That is the last frame.

    18. Anything else interesting in this episode?

    A scene I found interesting and liked takes place at the school while Carol is on first watch. Daryl comes in and starts telling Carol a story about his father. He says that he was a truck driver and used to tell him and Merle crazy stories all the time. He talks about one instance when his father thought he saw a crying girl walking in front of his truck on the freeway. He says he got out of the truck, called the police and looked for the girl everywhere, but she was nowhere to be found, because there was no girl. Then he tells her that his father didn't sleep much either, and when you don't get enough sleep, you start seeing things. Carol says that "She's not a meth-snorting truck driver like... Not that your dad... I'm sorry." After this, Daryl apparently leaves, and Carol hears something and also leaves the room to investigate. She looks inside one of the classrooms through a window on the door, and when she turns around, we see Henry inside, behind her, with a gash on his throat, saying "Mom". Carol turns around, there's nothing there. Then we hear Daryl's voice saying "hey", and Carol snaps back, still in the previous room. Daryl asks her where she's been, and seeing that she looks confused, he tells her that she's been gone half an hour. Carol says she thought she heard something and went to investigate. When Daryl looks at her suspiciously, she tells him that "this is not like his truck driver father who's seeing ghosts", to which Daryl replies "My dad wasn't a truck driver."



    UPDATE 10/16/2019

    From the spoiler ninjas -

    There's also a scene where Carol is dreaming. After being taken back to Alexandria and having the glass shard on her arm removed, we see her sleeping. She dreams about waking up, going downstairs to find Daryl making breakfast. She says they need jam, Daryl gives her money and tells her to buy some at the store, Carol asks if he's sure that they are open, then we see Henry "appearing", sitting at the breakfast table, asking "Mom, where are you going?" Carol then wakes up and actually goes downstairs to have that conversation with Michonne about the Whisperers that only she saw.


    Also, we DO see a little bit of Judith and RJ!! Our sweet babies!!!

    Judith and RJ are seen very briefly, yes. At the beginning of the episode, before there's anyone going out of Alexandria, RJ is sleeping, Judith is sitting by the window, asking Michonne if it's safe enough to go to sleep. They are interrupted because Michonne receives a radio call and is called back outside due to more walkers approaching. At the end of the episode, after everyone's back at Alexandria, when Judith asks again, Michonne says that's it's safe for now, and they both lie down on the bed on either side of RJ.

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    This sounds interesting but it also sounds frustrating! Carol could have shot dead Alpha, Beta and the other Whisperers at the border. The Whisperers are nomadic and are easy to hunt down and ambush with firearms. If anything, the Saviours were harder to defeat because they were more organised and weaponised. This stupid war with the Whisperers mainly stems from Lydia's decision to defect and join Alexandria. It's not as if Alpha and the Whisperers are after anything the Alexandrians have. At the first encounter with Alpha when she requested Lydia's release, Alpha said, "you ain't got nothing I want".

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    Wow, this sounds like it's got some serious classic horror story elements - ghosts and visions in addition to the usual zombie stuff. I'm not a Carol fan, but her place in the storyline sounds interesting. I'm looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdln View Post
    This sounds interesting but it also sounds frustrating! Carol could have shot dead Alpha, Beta and the other Whisperers at the border. The Whisperers are nomadic and are easy to hunt down and ambush with firearms. If anything, the Saviours were harder to defeat because they were more organised and weaponised. This stupid war with the Whisperers mainly stems from Lydia's decision to defect and join Alexandria. It's not as if Alpha and the Whisperers are after anything the Alexandrians have. At the first encounter with Alpha when she requested Lydia's release, Alpha said, "you ain't got nothing I want".

    From what we see in the trailer, the whisperers are armed and outnumber them - plus, they have control of a massive herd that could decimate the communities.

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    By the end of this season, Carol has to kill Alpha and Negan has to kill Beta. There are no other options.

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    I do not see why the group don't just take out Alpha 's entire group. It's dumb decision like this that has me missing the survivors. There is absolutely no reason to allow them to live. They can wipe them all out in a matter of days. If they don't want to kill all of them, Than they should just kill Alpha,and Beta. The rest would get the message and leave them alone.

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    So here is the part where the Stoopit Carol fans don't say shit about what Carol is doing and actually think she's being badass but were piling on Rosita back in Season 7 for doing the same. Or even Coral at various times.

    Granny Wondercunt can do no wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by BMT View Post
    By the end of this season, Carol has to kill Alpha and Negan has to kill Beta. There are no other options.
    Yes there is. Alpha can kill Carol. Negan can kill Alpha. Beta can kill Negan.

    And then Beta can eat Daryl's dog and never be seen from again.

    Quote Originally Posted by luvprue1 View Post
    I do not see why the group don't just take out Alpha 's entire group.
    It's not that easy. There is no way of knowing how many Whisperers there actually is and all it takes is a few survivors to send that mega herd towards Alexandria and wipe everyone out.

    And they would. Because The Whisperers are a cult. There is no "Welp, the boss is dead, screw that job."

    What would happen is there would be a new Alpha and a new Beta and at the moment it seems like this Alpha is the only one keeping this from being a full on massacre. Alpha is the last person you want to kill right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    Yes there is. Alpha can kill Carol. Negan can kill Alpha. Beta can kill Negan.

    And then Beta can eat Daryl's dog and never be seen from again.
    Oh my god I would love to see Beta eat dog. I'd love to see Beta eat Daryl tbh.

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    Not a huge Carol fan here, but she is one of the originals so I don’t really want her dead. But all this interaction between everyone leads me to think Carol could be the big season finale death this year. Like she tries to kill Alpha but at the last second Alpha gets the upper hand and kills Carol. I don’t know - just kinda feels that way.

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    Also if dog does have to go - having Beta just sitting there roasting dog on an open fire would be the only acceptable way for dog to go.

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